Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

04/27/2022 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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+ SB 161 POLITICAL PARTY DEFINITION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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             HB 5-SEXUAL ASSAULT; DEF. OF "CONSENT"                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of SB 187.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:20:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 5, "An Act  relating to sexual abuse  of a minor;                                                               
relating  to sexual  assault; relating  to the  code of  military                                                               
justice; relating to  consent; relating to the  testing of sexual                                                               
assault examination  kits; and providing for  an effective date."                                                               
[Before the committee was CSSSHB 5(STA).]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:22:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAMUEL  BUELL, Professor  of Law,  Duke  University, thanked  the                                                               
committee  for  the discussion  on  reforming  the definition  of                                                               
sexual  assault   and  related   offenses.    He   commended  the                                                               
committee's efforts  to shift from  the historical  definition of                                                               
rape,  which  indicates  force,  to  a  more  modern  concept  of                                                               
consent.   He  shared his  biography, highlighting  that he  is a                                                               
member  of the  American Law  Institute  (ALI) and  serves as  an                                                               
appointed  advisor   in  the  project   which  is   revising  the                                                               
definitions of sexual  assault and related offenses  in the Model                                                               
Penal Code  (MPC).  He  said, "My remarks  today are based  on my                                                               
knowledge and views and do  not reflect necessarily the positions                                                               
or opinions of the ALI as a body or the project's reporters."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL  identified   the  two  main  issues   in  the  modern                                                               
definition of rape as consent and  mens rea, or mental state.  He                                                               
acknowledged  that  ALI's  debates  on  these  topics  have  been                                                               
contentious for many years.   Addressing the topic of consent, he                                                               
expressed  the  understanding  that  the basic  wrong  in  sexual                                                               
assault  would  be   to  compel  another  to   submit  to  sexual                                                               
penetration  or  contact  without  consent.   He  explained  that                                                               
because  "consent"  is  not  an  all-purpose  concept  under  one                                                               
definition of the  law, it must be defined within  a context.  He                                                               
stated  that consent,  at  its  core, is  a  question of  "mental                                                               
state" itself.   In other words, he said, the  question would be,                                                               
"Was contact  or penetration  wanted or  unwanted?"   He conveyed                                                               
that  ALI  has  recognized  punishment  cannot  be  based  on  an                                                               
unobservable  mental process  of one  individual, and  consent is                                                               
ultimately in the  mind and must be expressed in  some fashion to                                                               
be known.   He stated that ALI has settled  on a hybrid approach,                                                               
making clear  "non-consent" means no  consent, or "no  means no."                                                               
He pointed out  that verbally expressed consent  is not required,                                                               
as it could be acted out or  performed.  He said that the current                                                               
MPC draft definition of consent  "means a person's willingness to                                                               
engage  in a  specific act  of sexual  penetration, oral  sex, or                                                               
sexual contact,  all of which  are defined terms."   He continued                                                               
that  neither  verbal nor  physical  resistance  are required  to                                                               
prove lack of consent, but it  may be inferred by behavior in the                                                               
context of  the circumstances.   He said this makes  the question                                                               
of consent a variable and fact-based question.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:26:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL  explained that  the  language  in the  definition  of                                                               
consent had been a compromise at  ALI.  Some had wanted a verbal-                                                               
affirmative requirement,  while others argued this  would require                                                               
changes in  existing practices and put  ALI too far ahead  of the                                                               
social curve  in the law reform  process.  He expressed  the view                                                               
that the current ALI definition  of consent accommodates both the                                                               
rights  of  victims  and  accused persons  and  is  realistic  in                                                               
respect to  the current  national attitude of  sexual mores.   He                                                               
expressed the  opinion that CSSSHB  5(STA) appears to  be heading                                                               
in  a  similar  direction;  however, he  suggested  the  language                                                               
should be simplified to avoid  confusion in the judicial process.                                                               
He  expressed the  opinion  that the  definition  of "freely"  in                                                               
Section 6 could raise questions.   He compared this to the use of                                                               
"free will" in  [SB 187].  He described this  usage as "fraught."                                                               
He voiced  the opinion that the  language in Section 5  of CSSSHB
5(STA) is problematic because there  is an attempt to specify the                                                               
conditions  when  consent is  lacking.    He expressed  confusion                                                               
concerning  subsection  (c)(3) in  regard  to  the idea  that  an                                                               
offender's  actions could  cause a  victim's lack  of resistance.                                                               
He  expressed   further  confusion   concerning  what   "lack  of                                                               
resistance" is  meant to  cover.  He  reasoned that  the drafting                                                               
process is difficult, but the  law must make judgements about the                                                               
different  pressures  which would  render  consent  invalid.   He                                                               
referenced  the  general  opinion  that  many  forms  of  sex  in                                                               
situations of lesser-power balances  are outside of criminal law,                                                               
and  this is  the problem  with  the language  "freely given"  or                                                               
"free will"  in the legislation.   He said the language  tends to                                                               
"beg  the question  of what  level  of free  decision making  ...                                                               
specifies the line between legally  operative consent and failure                                                               
of consent."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL,  concerning mens  rea, pointed  out that  Alaska's MPC                                                               
style  rules require  a  finding of  "recklessness"  in order  to                                                               
convict  for lack  of  consent.   He  acknowledged  that this  is                                                               
consistent  with ALI's  definition.   He advised  that using  the                                                               
term "recklessly" within the crime  definitions themselves may be                                                               
better than  relying on  the Alaska  statutory provision  on mens                                                               
rea.   The reasoning is  because Alaska's statutory  provision on                                                               
mens rea requires  a mental state of "knowingly"  for any conduct                                                               
elements  and "recklessness"  for any  circumstances or  results.                                                               
The current  language in the  proposed legislation could  lead to                                                               
debates about which  parts of the sexual  assault definitions are                                                               
part  of the  conduct  element  of the  offenses,  as opposed  to                                                               
aspects of  a circumstance or  result.  He suggested  that adding                                                               
mens  rea  within  the  definitions   themselves  would  be  more                                                               
specific, avoid confusion, and avoid possible mitigation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:30:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL stressed  the importance  of understanding  that using                                                               
"recklessness" would indicate a  highly culpable knowledge state.                                                               
In other words, the actor  must have contemplated whether consent                                                               
was lacking,  perceived a risk  that it was lacking,  and decided                                                               
to proceed, nonetheless.   He stated that there has  been a great                                                               
deal of discussion  about using "recklessness" as a  mens rea, as                                                               
it could  lead to  convictions of  mistaken actors,  for example.                                                               
He stated that MPC does  not use the definition "recklessness" in                                                               
this way.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:31:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL,  in addressing  the first  of two  additional drafting                                                               
concerns, said  that ALI  has debated  on grading  and punishment                                                               
with respect  to excessive incarceration.   He stated  that ALI's                                                               
draft  is different  than the  proposed  legislation because  the                                                               
proposed legislation  treats "penetration  without consent"  as a                                                               
first-degree felony,  even in  the absence of  the use  of force.                                                               
He suggested that the definition  should move away from including                                                               
"use  of   force"  because  historically   this  has   made  rape                                                               
problematic  for  victims.     He  stated  that   "force"  as  an                                                               
aggravating factor could  be retained in the  definitions, but he                                                               
suggested making  grading distinctions between  nonconsensual sex                                                               
and  nonconsensual sex  through the  use of  physical force.   He                                                               
stated that the  ALI draft is available online and  could be seen                                                               
as an example of grading on different levels of sexual assault.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:32:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL,  as a  last  point,  expressed confusion  in  Section                                                               
1(a)(5)   concerning  the   language   "artifice,  pretense,   or                                                               
concealment".  He expressed confusion  how cases of rape by fraud                                                               
would  be  covered  under  this  language.    He  explained  that                                                               
determining the  types of deceptions  which would  render consent                                                               
invalid is  a tricky  issue.  Deception  comes in  many different                                                               
forms and contexts, and many of  those have not been treated as a                                                               
basis for imprisonment.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:33:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  SNYDER, for clarification,  requested that  Mr. Buell                                                               
speak again on the topic of recklessness.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL stated  that  the definitions  of  the various  mental                                                               
states are  a part of the  Alaska Criminal Code and  were modeled                                                               
after MPC.   He referenced  the definition of "recklessly"  in AS                                                               
11.81.900(a),  which   read  as  follows   [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          (3) a  person acts "recklessly" with  respect to a                                                                  
     result or  to a  circumstance described by  a provision                                                                    
     of law defining an offense  when the person is aware of                                                                    
     and   consciously   disregards    a   substantial   and                                                                    
     unjustifiable risk  that the result will  occur or that                                                                    
     the circumstance  exists; the  risk must  be of  such a                                                                    
     nature and  degree that disregard  of it  constitutes a                                                                    
     gross  deviation from  the standard  of conduct  that a                                                                    
     reasonable  person would  observe in  the situation;  a                                                                    
     person who  is unaware  of a risk  of which  the person                                                                    
         would have been aware had that person not been                                                                         
     intoxicated acts recklessly with respect to that risk;                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL stated  that to understand the meaning  of the statute,                                                               
the corresponding meaning of  "results" and "circumstances" would                                                               
need  to  be  understood  within  the elements  of  crimes.    He                                                               
explained that,  for example, a  "result" would be  the causation                                                               
of  death in  a homicide  statute.   This is  a separate  element                                                               
because it  is something which  happened as a consequence  of the                                                               
defendant's physical  conduct.  Using the  term "circumstance" to                                                               
describe an  element of  a crime would  mean something  about the                                                               
world, separate  from the  defendant's actions  or thoughts.   He                                                               
stated that a  simple example of "circumstance" would  be the age                                                               
of  a victim,  in a  case  in which  age  is relevant.   For  the                                                               
definition of mens  rea, or mental state, a  defendant would have                                                               
to be "reckless"  as a result of a "circumstance".   For example,                                                               
there  is  a  criminal  penalty  for  selling  cigarettes  to  an                                                               
underage person,  so the defendant  must be "reckless" as  to the                                                               
fact that the victim was underage.   He said, in other words, the                                                               
defendant thought about it and sold the cigarettes anyway.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:37:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL  explained that the  definition of  "recklessness" uses                                                               
the language  "unjustifiable risk" because some  situations would                                                               
require  that  a  risk  be  taken.    He  cited  the  example  of                                                               
recklessly  driving to  the hospital  because there  is a  person                                                               
bleeding to death  in the car, however; he  expressed the opinion                                                               
that in the context of sexual  offenses it is unclear whether the                                                               
word "unjustifiable" would mean anything.   He explained that the                                                               
focus is not  on the justifiability of the risk,  but whether the                                                               
actor  was  aware  of  the  risk.    He  described  this  as  the                                                               
"knowledge  state."    He  continued that  the  question  is  not                                                               
whether the  actor thought  about it, but  whether the  actor was                                                               
aware of the risk and decided to proceed anyway.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  pointed out  the provision  in [AS  11.81.900] that                                                               
addresses mental states  specific to sexual assault  in the first                                                               
degree.   He said  this provision refers  to ["knowingly"]  as to                                                               
the conduct  and ["recklessly"] as  to the circumstance.   In the                                                               
context of  a sexual assault,  he questioned whether  the meaning                                                               
would be  "knowing" as to  the conduct of sexual  penetration and                                                               
"reckless" as to the circumstance of lack of consent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:39:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL responded  in the affirmative.  He  elaborated that the                                                               
other side would argue that nobody  should go to prison unless it                                                               
is  practically certain  consent  was  lacking, with  "knowledge"                                                               
being  the  "recklessness"  standard.   He  continued  that  this                                                               
definition  would  make the  bar  extremely  high for  conviction                                                               
because  there must  be a  burden  of proof  beyond a  reasonable                                                               
doubt.  For example, an acquittal  could be produced by raising a                                                               
doubt about  whether a person was,  or was not, sure  consent was                                                               
lacking.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN, referencing Section  6 of the proposed legislation,                                                               
pointed  out the  language "freely  given, reversible  agreement"                                                               
used in  the definition  of consent.   He questioned  whether MPC                                                               
has taken a different approach to  the definition of consent.  He                                                               
requested feedback on the pros and  cons of the approach taken in                                                               
CSSSHB 5(STA).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL responded that this  is difficult and "the absolute nub                                                               
of this  law reform problem."   He said that ALI  has spent hours                                                               
debating, and  multiple drafts have  been written.   He expressed                                                               
the  opinion that  ALI chose  not to  use the  terms "freely"  or                                                               
"free will" because it begs the  question of what type of freedom                                                               
of thought one needs to be  genuinely consenting.  He stated that                                                               
ALI uses "willingness" in the  definition.  This captures more of                                                               
a concept of something which is  wanted, setting a higher bar for                                                               
consent, rather  than something  which is simply  agreed to.   He                                                               
suggested that this would beg the  question less.  He stated that                                                               
using "freely" and "free will"  in the definition would raise the                                                               
question,  "What is  freedom?"   He stated  that there  is not  a                                                               
perfect  solution, and  there will  be debates  about the  use of                                                               
"willingness" as well.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:42:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN,  with a  follow up, questioned  whether the  use of                                                               
"willingness"  within the  definition of  consent is  more victim                                                               
friendly than the proposed legislation's use of "freely given".                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL expressed  the opinion that this would  be his instinct                                                               
because the idea of "freely  given" depends on the circumstances,                                                               
whereas "willingness"  would go to  the ultimate question  of the                                                               
internal  mental state  of  the victim,  and  whether the  victim                                                               
actually wanted the sexual contact.   He explained that the model                                                               
is  new for  ALI, and  how it  will play  out in  court cases  is                                                               
unknown.  Concerning  the use of "freely" and "free  will" in the                                                               
definition, he  said, the pressures  which would make  a person's                                                               
decisions not  free are unknown.   He  provided the example  of a                                                               
woman  in  a  bad  domestic   situation,  with  a  huge  economic                                                               
disparity in the relationship.   He suggested that because she is                                                               
completely  dependent on  her partner,  she  may not  be able  to                                                               
withhold  sex.   He  questioned  whether  that would  be  "freely                                                               
given" consent.   He expressed  the opinion that these  cases are                                                               
not  generally  prosecuted, and  he  questioned  whether the  law                                                               
would want  to get involved.   He expressed the  realization that                                                               
he  is pointing  out  issues  instead of  resolving  issues.   He                                                               
stressed  the   importance  and   difficulty  of   these  issues,                                                               
concluding that  legislators must work  to get the  best language                                                               
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL,  in response  to  a  follow-up question,  voiced  the                                                               
opinion  that  the use  of  "willingness"  would be  more  victim                                                               
friendly than the  use of "freely given" in [SB  187].  He stated                                                               
that this had  been the intent behind the language  choice in the                                                               
ALI process.  He said that  the current MPC definition is similar                                                               
to  the  language  in  CSSSHB  5(STA),  which  further  specifies                                                               
consent  can be  expressed and  inferred from  the circumstances.                                                               
He stated  this has been  an important  issue for ALI,  as sexual                                                               
contact and penetration can occur  through mutual physical action                                                               
and be  fully consensual without  being discussed.  He  said that                                                               
care had been taken [in ALI] not to criminalize this.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:48:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  requested an analysis of  "rape by                                                               
fraud" as it appears in the proposed legislation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL  responded that  Section 1(a)(5)  of the  proposed bill                                                               
addresses sexual  assault by  impersonation.   He stated  that an                                                               
example of this would be identical  twins, where one of the twins                                                               
sexually deceives  the other's partner,  and once  discovered, it                                                               
is treated  as rape.   He  identified that  the problem  would be                                                               
writing a definition  distinguishing this from someone  who is an                                                               
actor and  tricks people into having  sex.  He stated  that these                                                               
cases  are   close  to  hedge-fund   lying,  which   are  morally                                                               
problematic, but not  treated as criminal because of  the fear of                                                               
where to draw  the line.  He reasoned this  could become the case                                                               
where  "if  you don't  tell  100  percent  of  the truth  in  all                                                               
relationships,  you   are  engaging  in  sexual   assault."    He                                                               
expressed difficulty  in understanding  the phrasing  in [Section                                                               
1(a)(5)].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS,  with a follow-up  question, asked                                                               
whether there is language from  other states which speak to these                                                               
situations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL responded  that other states do use  this language, but                                                               
he has not done  research on the topic.  He  stated that there is                                                               
academic literature with clear examples  which can be researched.                                                               
He  expressed   confusion  about  the  intent   of  the  language                                                               
concerning deception in the proposed legislation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:53:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN  questioned  whether  the  impersonation  topic  is                                                               
addressed in  the current version of  MPC.  If so,  he questioned                                                               
where the section could be found.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL responded in the  affirmative, and he indicated that he                                                               
would do a quick search for the section number.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  expressed confusion  and  concern                                                               
about  the  extent  to  which   the  language  [in  the  proposed                                                               
legislation] is  tailored to  some of  the situations  which have                                                               
been  described.    He expressed  the  understanding  that  these                                                               
situations need  to be addressed;  nonetheless, the  tightness in                                                               
statutory language caught his attention.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:55:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL responded  that Section  213.5(1)(b)(i) of  MPC covers                                                               
the  category of  fraud cases  which  traditionally involve  fake                                                               
medical procedure scams.  He  stated that Section 213.5(1)(b)(ii)                                                               
of MPC  addresses the  situation when  a person  believes falsely                                                               
that  an  actor is  someone  who  is  personally known,  and  the                                                               
deception causes  this person to  engage [in  sex].  He  said the                                                               
current  MPC  draft is  limited  to  a literal  impersonation  of                                                               
someone who  is known to the  victim.  He said  that the category                                                               
is narrow because  of the fear it could be  opened to other kinds                                                               
of deception.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:57:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN,  in   reference  to  the  section   in  MPC  under                                                               
discussion, stated  that there have  been comments  which express                                                               
the  language  is  both overinclusive  and  underinclusive.    He                                                               
stated that a certain degree  of specificity to a certain conduct                                                               
almost  excludes   another  conduct  which  otherwise   might  be                                                               
criminal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL  responded  that  he  would  need  an  example  before                                                               
speaking to this.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:58:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL, before  responding to  Vice Chair  Snyder, questioned                                                               
whether  Alaska   had  adopted  the  original   MPC  sex  offense                                                               
provisions completed in the early 1960s.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:59:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN responded  that Alaska had made a  major revision to                                                               
its penal  code in the late  1970s.  He stated  that this largely                                                               
followed modern MPC,  and since that time more  changes have been                                                               
made.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:00:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL  responded  to  Vice Chair  Snyder's  request  for  an                                                               
explanation of  the MPC  updating process.   He described  MPC as                                                               
one of ALI's most influential  products, as it has helped clarify                                                               
criminal law in the country.   He said that the original drafters                                                               
of  MPC  had been  a  small  group  of  "older, white,  male  law                                                               
professors and  not a  very representative  group," and  the rape                                                               
law had not considered victims'  rights or the sociological point                                                               
of  view; the  provisions concerned  force, consent,  and had  an                                                               
exception for spousal rape.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL stated  that about  10 years  ago ALI  appointed legal                                                               
writers  and  advisors  to  start   the  revision  project.    He                                                               
described the work  as "painstaking" with extensive  drafts.  The                                                               
first  draft took  two years,  with each  revision creating  more                                                               
discussion.  As  the number of meetings increased,  he said, more                                                               
people became  aware of the  project, and the circle  expanded to                                                               
include judges,  prosecutors, defense attorneys,  law professors,                                                               
victims'  rights organizations,  and  more.   Deep concerns  were                                                               
raised by  defense lawyers, academics,  judges, and  others about                                                               
the  law going  too far  and allowing  wrong convictions,  so the                                                               
process resulted in  only a moderate change.   Instead of finding                                                               
ways to  reduce incarceration, he  said opinions had  been voiced                                                               
that ALI's work  on the project would put more  people in prison.                                                               
He continued  that many victim  advocacy groups pushed  back with                                                               
the opinion that rape is the  one crime most underenforced by the                                                               
criminal justice system.   He stated that ALI is  not an advocacy                                                               
organization, so the current draft is  a balance of interest.  He                                                               
added that ALI has been successful  at being a collective view of                                                               
the legal profession, but the project is a contentious issue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:06:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL,  in response to Representative  Kreiss-Tomkins, stated                                                               
that the  final draft will  be in  front of ALI's  annual meeting                                                               
for a  vote in the  upcoming weeks;  however, the draft  does not                                                               
need  to  be  a  finished  product  for  states  to  utilize  the                                                               
information, as  it does not  have the force  of law.   He stated                                                               
that  ALI makes  its products  available  but does  not push  for                                                               
legislatures to use them.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:09:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  expressed the understanding  that some  states have                                                               
incorporated changes to  their sexual assault laws.   He observed                                                               
that ALI's approach has not  been adopted completely, but also it                                                               
has not been completely rejected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL responded  in agreement.  He stated that  the code is a                                                               
model,  and ALI  does  not expect  it to  be  adopted across  the                                                               
board.     There  is   the  expectation   that  issues   will  be                                                               
controversial, and states will go in a variety of ways.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:11:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR SNYDER,  concerning the sexual assault  section of the                                                               
model, questioned whether ALI's  motivation for modifications had                                                               
been   the  result   of  any   political,  cultural,   or  social                                                               
challenges.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUELL responded  that the question is difficult,  and he does                                                               
not have the data for an  answer.  He stated that prosecutors can                                                               
often have an  influential voice in criminal  law reform debates,                                                               
and they recommend the law  not be narrowed, as convictions would                                                               
be more difficult.   He stated that there are  proposals for even                                                               
broader   definitions;   however,   the   definitions   in   some                                                               
jurisdictions  could become  overbroad, as  defense lawyers  have                                                               
argued  that  definitions  need  to  be  specific  in  order  for                                                               
defendants to have  a fair trial.  He expressed  the opinion that                                                               
who gets heard in the process may depend on politics.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN referenced  the differences in CSSSHB  5(STA) and SB
187  in respect  to  the use  of "force"  in  the sexual  assault                                                               
[definitions].  He questioned the  approach other states may have                                                               
taken.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUELL  responded  that  without the  data  the  question  is                                                               
difficult to answer.   He expressed the opinion  that when states                                                               
use "force" defined in a  significant way for a nonconsensual sex                                                               
offense,  the offense  would be  graded at  a higher  level.   He                                                               
stated that the  definition of "force" was not an  element in old                                                               
rape  law.   The  absence  of  this  definition had  created  the                                                               
question whether  one body  putting pressure  on another  body in                                                               
sexual penetration should  be considered as force.   He continued                                                               
that,  if  so,  force  would  always  be  present;  however,  the                                                               
definition he had  been referring to would include  the threat of                                                               
violence, possibly  with a weapon and  injury to the victim.   He                                                               
noted that this is not to  minimize the basic offense, but having                                                               
the threat  of a  weapon or an  injury to the  victim would  be a                                                               
"substantially  aggravating" factor.   He  stated that  there are                                                               
distinctions to be  made, as each jurisdiction has  its own level                                                               
of penalties,  and its  criminal code  should be  consistent with                                                               
the levels of penalties imposed for different crimes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN stated  that the  next testifier  had been  invited                                                               
back [after  the hearing on  4/13/2022] to discuss  statistics in                                                               
relation  to the  pre-2013  definition  of rape  in  Alaska.   He                                                               
[reminded  the committee]  that  the question  had concerned  the                                                               
change in rape statistics over time in Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:20:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TROY PAYNE,  Ph.D., Director/Assistant Professor,  Alaska Justice                                                               
Information  Center, College  of  Health,  University of  Alaska,                                                               
Anchorage, presented  a PowerPoint on CSSSHB  5(STA), titled "FBI                                                               
Uniform Crime Report Legacy Rape  Statistics" [hard copy included                                                               
in the committee  packet].  He directed attention to  slide 2 and                                                               
stated that  the definition  of rape in  the FBI's  Uniform Crime                                                               
Reporting  Program (UCR)  changed  in 2013  because advocates  in                                                               
academics  had said  UCR's definition  did not  encompass a  wide                                                               
variety  of acts  which are  considered  as sexual  assault.   He                                                               
stated  that  his discussion  would  not  address the  definition                                                               
change but  the overall trends in  Alaska.  He displayed  slide 3                                                               
which charted  the rape rate  since 1979  in the state  using the                                                               
legacy definition.   Because  both definitions  had been  used by                                                               
UCR, he said there  is an overlap [from 2013 to  2016].  In every                                                               
year with  readily accessible  data, he  pointed out  that Alaska                                                               
rape  rates  are  far  higher  than the  national  average.    He                                                               
mentioned that these  are the same patterns seen  in the previous                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. PAYNE, moving  to slide 4, directed attention  to the handout                                                               
[copy included in  the committee packet] on  the previous changes                                                               
in [AS 12.55.125].  Regardless of  the changes in the statute, he                                                               
said, the chart  shows little difference in  aggregate rape rates                                                               
over time, as the pattern  for rates oscillate around the average                                                               
across the entire time series.   He noted the changes in relation                                                               
to  the criminal  penalties.   He reminded  the committee  that a                                                               
variety  of   details  of  criminal  sentencing   have  not  been                                                               
considered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:26:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  questioned whether an  increase in                                                               
sentencing would  reduce the rate  of rape crimes and  whether it                                                               
is fair to say that the rate of rape has not changed in Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  PAYNE responded  that there  have been  dramatic changes  in                                                               
sentence lengths  over time,  but there have  been no  changes in                                                               
offense rates over time.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:27:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. PAYNE,  in response  to Representative  Eastman, acknowledged                                                               
an error in the chart and  verified that there had been no change                                                               
in maximum sentencing from 2003 to 2006.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  commented that  the change was  in the  minimum, as                                                               
the minimum had gone up in those years.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:28:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS,  concerning recidivism, questioned                                                               
whether there is data on perpetrators reoffending after release.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  interjected that the next  presenter would possibly                                                               
be able to address the question.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  PAYNE commented  that  decades of  research  has shown  that                                                               
increasing  criminal  sanctions  for  offenses  does  not  affect                                                               
offender behavior.  He expressed  the opinion that it is possible                                                               
to deter  offenders through other methods,  but increasing prison                                                               
time is unlikely to change behaviors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:31:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRAD  MYRSTOL,  Ph.D.,   Professor,  Alaska  Justice  Information                                                               
Center,  College  of  Health, University  of  Alaska,  Anchorage,                                                               
offered  a  PowerPoint  presentation  on  CSSSHB  5(STA),  titled                                                               
"Alaska  Sex  Offender Recidivism"  [hard  copy  included in  the                                                               
committee  packet].    He  shared  that  the  presentation  would                                                               
include highlights from his  previously published report, "Alaska                                                               
Sex Offender Recidivism and Case  Processing Study: Final Report"                                                               
[included in  the committee packet].   He directed  the attention                                                               
to slide  2 which overviewed the  data and methods used.   Moving                                                               
to slide  3, he  explained that  the two goals  of the  study had                                                               
been  to  update  and  expand   the  knowledge  of  sex  offender                                                               
recidivism in Alaska.   The goals had been  accomplished with the                                                               
following three objectives: provide  specific estimates of Alaska                                                               
sex offender recidivism, expand  the post incarceration follow-up                                                               
period  from  two  years  to  seven  years  in  order  to  better                                                               
understand desistance,  and examine potential differences  in the                                                               
frequency and  intensity of recidivism for  post-incarcerated sex                                                               
offenders.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. MYRSTOL  stated that [the  study of] recidivism in  the state                                                               
only  looks  at two  or  three  years following  a  perpetrator's                                                               
release.   He  expressed  interest  in taking  a  longer view  in                                                               
analyzing recidivism and understanding  desistance.  He explained                                                               
that  desistance is  a term  in criminology  for the  patterns of                                                               
declining rates of criminal  participation following release from                                                               
prison.     To  understand  heterogeneity  in   the  patterns  of                                                               
reoffending on release  from prison, he indicated  that the study                                                               
used a group-based trajectory technique  to examine the potential                                                               
preferences  in  sex  offender  recidivism.    He  expressed  the                                                               
assumption that  in most  discussions recidivists  are considered                                                               
the same and  measured on whether or not  they reoffend; however,                                                               
deeper questions have  not been asked.  In example,  he posed the                                                               
question,  "Did recidivists  reoffend  at higher  or lower  rates                                                               
compared to others?"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:35:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MYRSTOL,  moving   to  slide  4,  stated   that  the  Alaska                                                               
Department  of   Corrections  (DOC)   supplied  the   data  which                                                               
identified  the  406  sex  offenders  used in  the  study.    The                                                               
individuals in  the study had  to have  been convicted of  one or                                                               
more qualifiable  sex offenses,  incarcerated in a  DOC facility,                                                               
and  released from  incarceration  between January  1, 2006,  and                                                               
December  31, 2008.   He  stated  that the  Department of  Public                                                               
Safety  provided   a  detailed   criminal  history  of   the  406                                                               
offenders.   He  stated that  rearrest and  conviction for  a new                                                               
offense are the two important outcome measures of the analysis.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:38:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MYRSTOL,  responding to  Vice Chair  Snyder, stated  that the                                                               
study did not  use a "sample" of sex offenders,  rather it used a                                                               
"population" of released persons  who met the inclusion criteria.                                                               
Addressing the  graph on sex  offender recidivism on slide  6, he                                                               
explained  that the  horizontal  axis is  time following  release                                                               
from prison beginning  at day zero going to seven  years, and the                                                               
vertical axis is  the cumulative percentage of  sex offenders who                                                               
were released from an Alaska  prison and reoffended at each point                                                               
of time.   He pointed  out that  because the data  is cumulative,                                                               
the graph  will always  go up  or flat, but  never decrease.   He                                                               
added that  once a person is  counted as a recidivist  using this                                                               
measure, he/she is always in this pool.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MYRSTOL, explaining the data  depicted in the graph, said the                                                               
top bold  line depicts the  percentage of sex offenders  who were                                                               
released from prison  and rearrested for any offense.   He stated                                                               
that the  graph culminates  at seven years  showing there  were a                                                               
total  of  55.4  percent  of sex  offenders  rearrested  for  any                                                               
offense.   He  compared  this percentage  with  the 40.4  percent                                                               
recidivism which had resulted after  three years.  He pointed out                                                               
that the long-dashed line represents  the number of sex offenders                                                               
released  from prison  and  convicted  of any  new  offense.   He                                                               
explained that conviction is a  lagged indicator because it takes                                                               
time for  cases to reach  resolution, and this would  explain why                                                               
the conviction rate is less  than the rearrest rate.  Continuing,                                                               
he explained  that the small-dashed  line near the  vertical axis                                                               
depicts the  percentage of sex  offenders who were  released from                                                               
prison and rearrested for a qualifying sex offense.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:44:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR SNYDER  observed  that the  graph  depicts a  "fairly                                                               
flat"  line for  the rearrest  for sex  offenses.   She suggested                                                               
that something is slowing the cumulative rate.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. MYRSTOL indicated  that slide 7 would address  the comment in                                                               
full.    He stated  that  sex  offenders, like  other  offenders,                                                               
engage in  a wide variety  of criminal  conduct.  He  pointed out                                                               
that rearrests  could cover anything from  motor vehicle offenses                                                               
to felony property crimes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MYRSTOL  pointed out that  recidivism is rarely for  the same                                                               
crime, which is opposed to  the assumption that individuals would                                                               
recommit the  same crime.   He addressed the straightness  of the                                                               
line  representing  the  rearrests   of  sex  offenders  for  sex                                                               
offenses.  He pointed out the  same is not true for rearrests for                                                               
any crime, as the  slope of this line is steep  in the early days                                                               
following  release, and  then  it flattens.    He suggested  this                                                               
would mean  the first year  following release from prison  is the                                                               
biggest at-risk  period for  recidivism for  any crime,  and then                                                               
the relative risk for recidivism declines over time.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:49:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MYRSTOL, moving  to  slide  7, stated  the  graph puts  into                                                               
context sex  offenders in  Alaska.   The graph  compares Alaska's                                                               
recidivism rates with  aggregated data from 30 other  states.  To                                                               
help  understand  the  likelihood  of  recidivism  for  different                                                               
offenses,  he  explained that  each  line  on the  graph  depicts                                                               
different classes  of offenders.   He pointed out that  the graph                                                               
shows the risk  of recidivism for sex  offenders is substantially                                                               
lower  than people  who were  convicted  of other  offenses.   He                                                               
noted that, not included in  the presentation, are results from a                                                               
different analysis  which shows  the rate  of recidivism  for sex                                                               
offenders in  Alaska is less  than offenders who  had misdemeanor                                                               
driving  under the  influence charges  (DUIs),  felony DUIs,  and                                                               
domestic  violence charges.   He  stated that  the data  makes it                                                               
clear  the  likelihood  of   sex  offender  recidivism  following                                                               
release from  prison is lower  than other offenders;  however, in                                                               
general, sex offender recidivism in Alaska is not low.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:53:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  suggested that  sex offenders  are harder                                                               
to  convict than  other  criminals, and  this  would explain  sex                                                               
offenders' lower recidivism rates.                                                                                              
DR. MYRSTOL clarified that the  data depicted reflects rearrests,                                                               
not convictions.   He stated  that there could be  differences in                                                               
investigatory practices,  but this depicts the  earliest point in                                                               
the criminal-legal process, and other case factors become mute.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MYRSTOL,  turning to  slide 8,  addressed homogeneity  of sex                                                               
offenders.  He stated that  analysis shows there is diversity, as                                                               
depicted  on  the graph  in  the  four  distinctive groups.    He                                                               
highlighted group 4,  which is depicted by the  bold line arching                                                               
across  the graph.   The  line shows  that post  release, through                                                               
year  5, group  4 had  an accelerated  rate of  reoffending.   He                                                               
observed that  the curve turns  downward as it approaches  year 7                                                               
on the graph, but the number  of reoffenders is still much higher                                                               
than the other  groups.  He pointed out that  the dynamic process                                                               
illustrates change over  time, exemplified by group 4.   In other                                                               
words, he said,  "There is a small group of  people doing lots of                                                               
stuff."   He pointed out  that this activity accelerates  by year                                                               
5,  and  then  declines.    He  compared  this  to  the  relative                                                               
stability  in the  other groups.    For context,  he stated  that                                                               
group 4,  which represents  6.7 percent  of all  the sex-offender                                                               
recidivist,  committed 17  percent of  all the  new arrests.   He                                                               
explained that  the members  in group  4 had  been reincarcerated                                                               
most  of the  study  period  and only  available  to reoffend  15                                                               
percent  of  the total  time;  however,  they still  composed  17                                                               
percent of all  rearrests.  He reiterated that  group 4 comprised                                                               
only around  7 percent  of the reoffender  population.   He said,                                                               
"For me, this was a bit of a  revelation."  He said this had been                                                               
his initial hypothesis  because it is a  criminological fact that                                                               
there tends  to be  one small  group of  offenders who  commit an                                                               
extraordinarily disproportionate amount of crime.   He added that                                                               
released sex  offenders are not  unique in this  regard; however,                                                               
prior  to  this work,  he  said  he had  not  seen  this type  of                                                               
pattern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:00:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MYRSTOL, in response to  Chair Claman, stated that the groups                                                               
are described in  generalities.  In terms of  the research, great                                                               
pains were  taken to  not identify individuals.   He  referred to                                                               
page 21 of  the study report for the demographics  in each of the                                                               
groups.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS commented  that  the  ratio of  80                                                               
percent of things being attributed  to 20 percent of the minority                                                               
can be applied [across the board].                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:03:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN pointed out  that the study differentiated                                                               
between high-risk  rates and low-risk  rates for recidivism.   He                                                               
questioned  whether the  group with  the higher-risk  rates could                                                               
receive stiffer penalties.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MYRSTOL, providing  the caveat  that  he is  not a  criminal                                                               
attorney, expressed  the understanding  that a  criminal sanction                                                               
would  be in  relation  to  the offense,  not  the likelihood  of                                                               
reoffence.  He  expressed the hope that the  data presented would                                                               
inform  practice  within  DOC  rather  than  larger  policies  in                                                               
criminal law.   Based on the risk-assessment  tools and framework                                                               
used, he  expressed the  belief that DOC  is aware  of recidivism                                                               
risks.  He stated that his aim  has been to help policy makers be                                                               
aware  of the  features  of  recidivism.   He  stated  he has  no                                                               
recommendations in  terms of a  law change but stressed  that not                                                               
all recidivists are the same.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN thanked the presenter.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[HB 5 was held over.]                                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 161 v. I 4.25.2022.PDF HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 161
SB 161 Sponsor Statement v. I 4.25.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 161
SB 161 Summary of Changes v. B to v. I 4.25.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 161
SB 161 Supporting Document - Research Graph 1.24.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/9/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 161
SB 161 Supporting Document - Research Parties on Presidential Ballots 1.24.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/9/2022 10:00:00 AM
SB 161
SB 161 Fiscal Note OOG-DOE 3.4.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/4/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 161
HB 5 Supporting Document - Testimony Received as of 4.26.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 5
HB 5 Additional Document - Excerpts from Model Penal Code Draft Statutes (Distributed by the HJUD Committee) 4.26.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 5
HB 5 Additional Document - Legislative History of Sentencing for Sexual Assault in the First Degree (Distributed by HJUD Committee) 4.26.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 5
HB 5 Additional Document - Model Penal Code Project (Tentative Draft No 6) (Distributed by the HJUD Committee) 4.27.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 5
HB 5 Additional Document - FBI Uniform Crime Report Rape Statistics Cont'd Presentation to HJUD Committee 4.27.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 5
HB 5 Additional Document - Alaska Sex Offender Recidivism and Case Processing Study Presentation to HJUD 4.27.2022.pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 5
HB 5 Additional Document - Alaska Sex Offender Recidivism and Case Processing Study Final Report 2016 (Distributed by the HJUD Committee).pdf HJUD 4/27/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 5